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A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

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A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by Chris Catto » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:45 pm

As discussed in public many public forums, members agree that renewal of stewardship is required.

There has been much debate amongst members on the right path forward for CPA Australia.

The path must be consistent with current "legitimate" democratic processes respect key stakeholders not embroiled in with the current governance issues.

Below is a path for renewal for CPA Australia's stewardship that would allow the organisation transform and be a leader in the international Corporate Governance process.

1. s249D call for meeting of members https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LMQZ775

2. s203D Resolutions to remove Current Individual Directors (Current Directors have the opportunity to state their case for retaining their positions directly to members)

3. Resolution to Dissolve the Representative Council

4. Resolution to elevate current Divisional Council President’s as the care-taker board (They are in effect the legitimately elected member representatives)

5. Invite and appoint a constitutional review panel of 5
The potential members of the Panel subject to acceptance of invitation include;
a. Professor Bob Baxt Emeritus Partner Herbert Smit Freehills, Former ACCC Chairman
b. Alan Cameron AO Former Chairman of ASIC
c. W. Peter Day Former Chairman of AASB, Non-Exec Director of Multiple international organisations
d. Elizabeth Alexander - Past National President of CPA Australia – Chancellor of the University of Melbourne
e. Cath Mulcare – Chief Risk Officer ATO
f. Ian McPhee* - Former Auditor General (already invited to Review Panel)
g. Professor Ian Ramsay - Harold Ford Professor of Commercial Law

6. On completion of Review will be the Election of "New" Board Members consistent with advice from the Review panel.

There is a clear way forward for CPA Australia to re-position the association as a leader in Corporate Governance.

Please comment and provide feedback on the floated process above.

Show your principled support of the call for a meeting of members via this link https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LMQZ775


Detailed Bios of persons invited on to Constitutional Panel below as per publicly available information.

Professor Bob Baxt

Professor Baxt is chairman of the Law Committee of the AICD, and a member of the Executive of the Business Law Section of the Law Council of Australia. He is also a professorial Fellow of the University of Melbourne.

In 2003, Professor Baxt was recognised in the Queen’s Birthday Honours list and awarded an Order of Australia for services to the law. He has also been awarded the Centenary Medal.
Before joining Herbert Smith Freehills, Professor Baxt was the chairman of the Australian Trade Practices Commission the predecessor to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commssion. Prior to that, he was dean of the Monash University law faculty in Victoria, Australia for 8 years.

Alan Cameron AO

Alan Cameron is a lawyer and company director. He is chairman of the NSW Law Reform Commission.

He was chairman of the Australian Securities Commission and the Australian Securities and Investments Commission for 8 years. He was a partner of the law firm now known as Ashurst Australia from 1979 to 1991.

His other current roles include chairing the ASX Corporate Governance Council, Hastings Funds Management Limited, Westpac Bank's insurance and funds companies, BuildingIQ Inc, and Property Exchange Australia Limited.

He was Deputy Chancellor of the University of Sydney for 7 years and was appointed an Officer in the Order of Australia for services to the community, higher education, and corporate governance.

W. Peter Day

Mr. William P. Day is Independent Non-Executive Director at Boart Longyear Ltd., Independent Non-Executive Director at Alumina Ltd., Non-Executive Chairman at Centro MCS Manager Ltd., Independent Non-Executive Director at SAI Global Ltd., Independent Non-Executive Director at Ansell Ltd. and a Member at Australian Institute of Co. Directors.

He is on the Board of Directors at Boart Longyear Ltd., Alumina Ltd., SAI Global Ltd., Ansell Ltd., Australian Prudential Regulation Authority, Accounting Professional & Ethical Standards Board Ltd., Australia Takeovers Panel, Central Gippsland Region Water Corp., Financial Executives Institute of Australia, MS Australia Ltd. and Multiple Sclerosis Research Australia Ltd. Mr. Day was previously employed as Non-Executive Chairman by Centro Retail Trust, Non-Executive Director by Federation Ltd., Non-Executive Director by Federation Centres, Non-Executive Chairman by Orbital Corp. Ltd., Chief Financial Officer by Amcor Ltd.,

Chairman by Australian Accounting Standards Board, Deputy Chairman by Australian Securities & Investments Commission, Chief Financial Officer by Commonwealth Aluminum Corp, and a Managing Director by Complete Risk Analysis Pty Ltd. He also served on the board at Bonlac Foods Ltd., Comalco Aluminum Ltd. and Rio Tinto Aluminium Ltd. He received his graduate degree from The University of Manchester and an MBA from Monash University.

Elizabeth Alexander

Alexander is a Fellow of the Society of Certified Practicing Accountants, a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Australia, and a Fellow of the Australian Institute of Company Directors where she was a past national president. Alexander is a past national president of CPA Australia. She served as a non-executive director of CSL Limited for twenty years, including five as chairman; is a non-executive director of Dexus Property Group and Medibank Private; and has previously served on the boards of Boral, Amcor. The first woman in Australia to be appointed as a partner of one of the big eight accounting firms, Alexander specialised in the area of risk management and corporate governance issues, and was responsible for the establishment of these practices within Australia at PricewaterhouseCoopers.[2] Alexander also served on government regulatory bodies including the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority, the Australian Takeovers Panel, and the Australian Financial Reporting Council.

In 2011 Alexander was appointed as Chancellor of the University of Melbourne and succeeded Alex Chernov, who was appointed as Governor of Victoria.

Alexander was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia in 1990 "In recognition of services to accountancy".

Cath Mulcare

Cath's experience brings together financial management, regulatory affairs, governance, strategic planning and risk management. Cath was appointed to the CRO role at the Australian Taxation Office to lead the second line function and oversee Enterprise Risk Management. After her position as Regulatory Affairs Partner at KPMG, Cath moved into the role of Chief Financial and Operations Officer at Melbourne Storm to restore credibility and confidence after the salary cap scandal. After the finalisation of the various investigations and improvements to governance and risk systems Cath was appointed CFO at Defence Health bringing together her audit, financial reporting, governance and risk experience. With the separation of responsibilities for finance and risk Cath was appointed as CRO to develop and embed a Risk Management Framework which would enhance the strategic planning process and add value to DHL while meeting the requirements of APRA.

Cath is currently a Director of Make a Wish Foundation of Australia and SMSF Association and was also a Director on the Accounting Professional and Ethical Standards Board.

Ian McPhee

Ian McPhee was appointed as the fourteenth Auditor-General for Australia on 11 March 2005 and his non-renewable 10-year term concluded on 10 March 2015. Ian was subsequently appointed by the Prime Minister on an acting basis from 11 March 2015 until 10 June 2015. The fifteenth Auditor-General for Australia, Mr Grant Hehir, commenced his term on 11 June 2015.

Ian's previous position was as Deputy Secretary, Financial Management Group, Department of Finance and Administration (2003-2005), where his responsibilities included managing and providing policy advice to the Finance Minister on the budget and financial management framework; budget and financial reporting, and analysis for whole of government purposes; public sector superannuation; and the Office of Evaluation and Audit.

From 1998 to January 2003, Ian was Deputy Auditor-General at the Australian National Audit Office, where he was responsible to the Auditor-General for the delivery of the performance and assurance audit programs of the Office.

Professor Ian Ramsay

Ian Ramsay is the Harold Ford Professor of Commercial Law. He is also Director of the Law School's Centre for Corporate Law and Securities Regulation. Ian practised law in New York and Sydney and is a member of the Corporations Law Committee of the Law Council of Australia. Former positions he has held include Head of the Federal Government inquiry on auditor independence, member of the Takeovers Panel, member of the Australian Securities and Investments Commission's External Advisory Panel, member of the Australian Government's Corporations and Markets Advisory Committee, member of the Audit Quality Review Board, member of the Australian Government's Auditors and Liquidators Disciplinary Board, member of the Law Committee of the Australian Institute of Company Directors and member of the International Federation of Accountants taskforce on rebuilding confidence in financial reporting. Ian has published extensively on corporate law and corporate governance issues both internationally and in Australia.

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Re: A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by nakedadmin » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:27 am

It's probably the best plan we have at this stage and we don't really have much time to spare with Directors recruiting replacements etc.

Interesting idea that the Divisional Presidents are legitimate elected representatives. I'd agree they are the closest thing we have to that. But also the election process is fairly unengaging, I wonder if we need to consider people outside the tent as well. I'd be interested to gauge members feedback if these people inside the tent have their support.

As far as I've seen the Divisions are working within the internal governance structure. If they turned around and contacted 10,000 members then they'd have the numbers overnight.

Also I'd not like to see anyone who has been Director in the past put their hand up. I think that anyone who has had a role in getting us to this point should be constitutionally barred from being a Director ever again. I propose that once a person has had the role of Director they cannot do it a second time.

Also I'd like to see a mix of people not just all eminent accountants. Eminence does not seem to have served us very well so far.
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Re: A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by theallseeingeye » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:11 am

The use of the phrase Divisional Presidents could be interpreted to exclude Branch Presidents e.g. europe . Was that your intent ?

I don't know about Divisions these days, but in my Branch the Council is member-elected, then the President is elected by the Councillors.

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Post by Eric Nacpa » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:33 am

AICD need to deal with the fact that existing and former directors were Fellows of AICD before anyone suggests AICD membership (nothing against Baxt) qualifies anyone to participate in renewal.

Rather than an inquisition or academic sojourn I'd suggest a membership endorsed Board with short and finite tenure to set out strategy is needed. A few cycles will be needed to properly engage members.

Why not recall nominations and put in a caretaker Board?

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Re: A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by Brett Stevenson » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:52 am

1. I would not be so keen on divisional councillors and especially div presidents involved in this. They have been virtually silent to date.
They are the very ones who should have been the ones who would challenge the things we have exposed but they have been virtually silent.
I'm not too sure who the Victorian Dic councillor Mr Brooke's is but if he is the Mr Brooks who prefaced his Dorothy Dixer question at the AGM by saying there were no remuneration or governance problems at CPA Australia, then there is no way the likes of him should be involved at this critical stage.
We all have been apathetic and disinterested but those who were in positions of any form of representative position (divisions, committees etc) should have been more aware than the rest of us. Their silence up until the last week or is very telling to me.
I think the pro-Malley support cast runs pretty deep in our organisation. This gerrymander did not come from nowhere.

2. I am also questioning of a governance review only involving so called experts and eminent persons.
This is for two reasons.

a. Firstly it seems fundamentally unfair that many members 'lower down the ranks' in terms of fame and fortune but very active and passionate enough to work very hard and very voluntarily to expose these matters are not included.

b. Secondly I am sick to death of all this governance expertise talk and the use of terms like integrity, and transparency, and openness, and integrated reporting, and 'best of the best', and compliance with ASX guidelines etc., when in reality it is like a cover for the opposite. What was virtually ignored when the new governance system was implemented at CPA in 2006/7 (after a very expensive governance review by Khoury, Cameron Ralph) was the lack of checks and balances to prevent exactly what resulted at CPA. You can express that however you wish but we need checks and balances because we are prone to misuse power.

To have allowed an expertly done governance system to prevail which virtually disenfranchised the members, and allowed a virtual gerrymander to provide control to a small group, is not my idea of good corporate governance.
A bit more of the professional passion that existed when our membership organisation started and developed neeeds to be heavily factored in I reckon.

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Post by nakedadmin » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:04 am

Brett Stevenson wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:52 am
b. Secondly I am sick to death of all this governance expertise talk and the use of terms like integrity, and transparency, and openness, and integrated reporting, and 'best of the best', and compliance with ASX guidelines etc., when in reality it is like a cover for the opposite.
Absolutely!
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Re: A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by Dave » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:40 am

Agree with Brett's comments.

The people in the divisional council observed for years and did not appear to correct what was going on.

If a members EGM meeting is called then the members can also at the same time appoint an interim Board.

While back in this forum there was a list of an alternative Board that should be considered.

People like Brett, Chris, Jen should be on that interim board.

Also the administration of this members vote needs to be done by an independent third party such as share registry or company secretarial service and not CPA Australia.

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Re: A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by passedfc » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:05 am

Just a quick reflection . Chris Catto plan
We do need a plan and way forward, no doubt about that.
With all due respect to Chris Catto suggested plan :
To ensure all member support some plan we need to get in contact with all members and Brett tried that.. access to email data base can only be gained once the Board, Awty and Hughes are gone... how do we do this without member support.?
I would not be excited by the Divisional Presidents being in charge of to much even though i think we need to get them on board.They have not been at the forefront of governance over the last 7 years. (If Brooks was the Dortothy Dixer at AGM then I would be interested to ask him for comment as i have already written to him once and emailed a couple of times)
Lists of eminent people with Queens birthday honors do little impress me .Are any of those listed on this forum making some sort of contribution ? Are they really interested in CPA ?
Calling meeting of members... ? How ? when? need legal advice on this as well.

NB. See article by Sandra Van der Laan in AFR.. these are the sort of people we need to engage with and get on Board.

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Re: A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by brooding » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:18 am

Ref the discussion on Divisional Presidents, I agree with those that have said that they have stood by and done nothing while the organisation has been brought to its knees. Therefore, I do not agree with their elevation to directors.

As a suggestion, I would like to have a mix of eminent persons, and member directors in the interim board. I believe the seven mentioned would be suitable to sit on an interim board, however as others have mentioned we should have a few member representatives, such as Brett, Chris, Sandra, Jen, etc.

It is important to have a mix of expertise on the interim board, and I do not mind that we have several independents and outsiders helping out, given the carnage that has taken place. It is important to note that within the organisation, we still need to extract other collaborators, and this process is only the beginning.

These are the seven who have been suggested on the constitutional review council.
a. Professor Bob Baxt Emeritus Partner Herbert Smit Freehills, Former ACCC Chairman
b. Alan Cameron AO Former Chairman of ASIC
c. W. Peter Day Former Chairman of AASB, Non-Exec Director of Multiple international organisations
d. Elizabeth Alexander - Past National President of CPA Australia – Chancellor of the University of Melbourne
e. Cath Mulcare – Chief Risk Officer ATO
f. Ian McPhee* - Former Auditor General (already invited to Review Panel)
g. Professor Ian Ramsay - Harold Ford Professor of Commercial Law

Remember this is only an interim board, and we need to think long term.

Finally, I would also like to ensure the constitutional review council conducts a governance review of what has happened in the organisation for the last 7 years and recommends further action to former directors and employees if they are found to have acted inappropriately.

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Post by CPAwhatever » Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:25 am

I think it is important to find ways to increase member engagement and reduce apathy. A lot of issues with apathy and non engagement come from the prohibitive cost of being involved. And CPAA board knows that and banks on that. In order for me to even attend an AGM, I will need to travel to Sydney and then Melbourne, which will cost me an arm and a leg in travels costs only. CPAA board could make it even harder by moving the AGM to Singapore. Unless CPAA constitution is amended the only way a member can be engaged is by attending the AGM, physically.

I think it is about time CPAA introduced online voting, just like listed companies. Online voting by shareholders without a proxy form has become more and more popular in the last few years. Large companies such as Telstra, Commonwealth Bank and Wesfarmers have put in place procedures to facilitate online voting at meetings by their shareholders, CPAA can do the same for its members. Their actions follow the release of a paper by Chartered Secretaries Australia (CSA) in 2007 entitled “CSA’s Guide to Implementing Direct Voting”.

It also saves a lot on costs, and might make it harder for current and future boards to avoid scrutiny, for everything from director remuneration to the strategic direction. Even if they decide to have the AGM in the Arctic for whatever reasons (to support the penguins) we would still be engaged. Moreover, Parliament amended the Corporations Act in 2004 to make this possible for all organisations. Move on with the times CPAA!

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Post by CanuckCPA » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:08 am

Online voting - great idea. I am also a member of CPA Canada and online votes are the norm there - works well.

I doubt if we would be looking at that $4.9 million smirk photo today if CPAA would have introduced online voting years ago.

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Post by theands » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:36 am

Hi All,

I'm all for the resolution to spill the board but I'm worried that we are burning the investment that members are putting into the CPA to get this sorted out.

Is it worth the money?

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Post by passedfc » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:46 am

Theands
A little more reading and you will see........
Our money has already been burnt.. if we don't fix... "sort Out Now... !!"" it will continue..
Is it worth it ?? Short Answer YES

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Re: A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by cdalzell » Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:49 pm

Brett Stevenson wrote:
Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:52 am
1. I would not be so keen on divisional councilors and especially div presidents involved in this. They have been virtually silent to date.
They are the very ones who should have been the ones who would challenge the things we have exposed but they have been virtually silent.
I'm not too sure who the Victorian Dic councillor Mr Brooke's is but if he is the Mr Brooks who prefaced his Dorothy Dixer question at the AGM by saying there were no remuneration or governance problems at CPA Australia, then there is no way the likes of him should be involved at this critical stage.
We all have been apathetic and disinterested but those who were in positions of any form of representative position (divisions, committees etc) should have been more aware than the rest of us. Their silence up until the last week or is very telling to me.
I think the pro-Malley support cast runs pretty deep in our organisation. This gerrymander did not come from nowhere.
While much has been achieved by the current campaign, it is important there is a plan for what to do next. The need for some form of review, whether this is done by a newly appointed board, or some form of independent committee is a matter of choice. Either way, without a review, there won't be a comprehensive plan, and the change everyone believes is necessary, wont occur.

The comments that Divisional Councillors and Presidents have been 'virtually silent' is a sweeping and incorrect statement. It falls into the same pattern of characterization many members have received from the current administration when raising alternative views, calling them 'members to be managed' and 'trouble makers'. I can say that there has been a strong voice on a range of topics expressed within Qld - examples of which include an active campaign to oppose the recent constitutional changes amending directors terms, concerns expressed about Rep Council processes and outcomes, and strong feedback on the way the organisation has responded to the this recent crisis and the individual members involved. While I applaud those members who have elected to demand changes in this very public way. It is one very important part of the activity going on, however it is not the whole of it. Taking a different tact allows those of us who share many of the same views, to make the same points within the structures that CPA Australia is required to listen to. It is important that Councils continue to express the members views in the way a number of us have, adding a different voice with the same message to this debate. It is a mistake to disregard or even trivialize this voice as being virtually silent simply because it has been expressed in a different way to those who have managed to attract recent media attention to the issue while others have been voicing concerns for some time.

I have expressed a strong view that the current independent review is NOT Independent as it reports to the Board. It does need to report to an elected membership body, and the only source of those people is the Divisional Councils. I have also made the point to that a members body made up of representative from each Council needs to oversee the review. None of the issues we talk about in this forum, or any other, will sufficiently change, without the board being fully replaced and some form of independent review.

I support the proposal but lets take care not to shoot everyone because the avenue through which concerns are expressed are not visible in a website or national newspaper.

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Post by certified sane » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:12 pm

I am all for spilling the board and getting the CPA back into the hands of the members. However, I stop short on labelling all people on divisional councils as complicit with the board and possibly smearing their reputation. I, as the rest of us could have pushed to have these problems aired and resolved over the last 7 years. I have failed in my duty. I compliment Brett on his fortitude and gumption to take up the fight. Are there some rotten eggs holding positions on divisional councils, I am sure their are. Are they all rotten eggs, I am not so sure. They have not come out publicly and slammed the current systems but that does not mean they have been silent within the organisation (at least I hope not). I don't know different but I am not ready to lay waste to everyone involved in CPA as being part of the problem, otherwise the vast majority of us should be included.

Having said my piece, I do not believe they should form the board or an interim board. I believe this should be filled with people not part of the current structure. I believe it should be formed with a mix of eminent people (external credibility) and passionate members (disgruntled members credibility) to balance a return of actual and perceived credibility of our organisation and brand.

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Post by Brett Stevenson » Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:28 pm

I think it worth saying in response to cdalzell that it is heartening to hear of their being voices in div councils and presidents but from what I heard when we raised these matters and the media was reporting it was virtual silence, not total silence.
There were plenty of opportunities for such members to come out in public such as with questions at the AGM, or in agreement when such obvious wrongs were exposed. Nothing when their names were taken down from the website for well high 4 months. No even partial agreement.
No comments on the gerrymandering corporate governance model. No comment on the lack of members votes to appoint directors.
No response to the 'silencing' censorship and earnings from Head Office.
Not everyone has to come out in public but in the first three months very few were prepared to say anything in public. To me, and that is just me not everyone I should add, if our membership means we are not prepared to speak in public for whatever reasons on such important matters then the question needs to be asked as to what does the cpa designation represent?
I think one of the main reasons what I and others said struck a resonance with the membership is because it rang true to them. But for some unexplained reason the divisions and committees just remained like this silent unknown block of members who should have been in a position to know more than we.
We do know for sure that many divisional councillors were strong supporters of Alex Malley and regarded what we said as rogue rankings. We still have such people on the board and they have 'ruled the day' for too long with what I still regard as the virtual silence from our representatives lower down the chain.
So, my apologies to cdalzell, if my being outspokenly critical of such silence wrongly included him/her.

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Post by cdalzell » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:48 pm

Thanks you Brett for your response.

As I have said, I applaud the way in which you have been able to garner the support of national media to a cause that otherwise may have fallen silent for several more years to come. It is good to know that you appreciate that silence in AGMs, public forums and a lack of public statement on issues does not in itself mean a lack of statement on a critical issue. I would make the point that there have been a great many others who have publicly, and within the governance structures of CPA, addressed many of these questions before and did not receive the support you did on this occasion. As an example, while I am not privy to the exact data but I strongly believe that the last set of constitutional changes were not supported by the voting Qld members based on a campaign against the proposed changes supported by the QDC run by the president at the time. The silence in the beginning of your quest reflects a different approach to these issues, based on past experience, where support is not normally forthcoming, and the protagonists largely left marginalized in the organisation, preventing a voice on important issues in the long term.

The silence was tactical. Not a lack of support, not a lack of genuine activity, and certainly not a lack of belief in what the CPA designation stands for.

Congratulations on what you and others have achieved, however, lets now focus on a plan to bring the membership together, around a plan for change we all support.

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Post by CPAwhatever » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:38 pm

I have been just told that CPA volunteers might have a legal confidentiality "gag" placed on them. Divisional Councillors etc have something called a Deed Poll (I haven't seen the actual document), which among other things, doesn't allow them to bring issues with anyone but CPA HQ directly.

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Post by Eric Nacpa » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:12 pm

They would have the normal confidentiality obligations in dealing with matters before them in their official roles.

I expect they were warned about this recently (a shot across the bow to maintain discipline and loyalty).
If they have gone further that's extraordinary but there could even be a good reason ie so as not to prejudice an investigation, potential litigation or prosecution, or just the corporate model being abused.

I hope they are ALL saving their emails and keeping good diaries :)

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Re: A Path For CPA Renewal - s249D Call for Members meeting and next steps

Post by passedfc » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:24 pm

It would be interesting to see a clarification on the role / function of Divisional Councils.
One would assume they represent state members as they are elected.
If such a gag exists it would seem counter productive.

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