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Membership Numbers by State in Australia

Discussion about the proposed resolutions to be put to the AGM in May 2018
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Brett Stevenson
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Membership Numbers by State in Australia

Post by Brett Stevenson » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:01 pm

For some reason CPA Australia are reluctant to provide us with the membership numbers by Sate and Territory in Australia.
I suggest it is important information to consider given the approach of the Independent Review Panel toward governance.
Best if members have the data, then you can make up your own minds rather than being fed half the info.
I compiled this from the Members Register.
Is close enough as I was able to sort the data but on occasion the members details were not entered consistently.
Just to answer the burning question you are all asking - there were 52 CPA members in New York.
The spreadsheet attached gives the data plus a few comments.
In summary
NSW 40,573
Vic 35,541
Qld 15,755
WA 10,333
SA 5,217
ACT 3,090
TAS 1,142
NT 571
Total 112,222
Being 71.25% of total membership,
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Re: Membership Numbers by State in Australia

Post by nakedadmin » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:45 am

So under the board suggest Appointments Council model:

Europe has 1% of the membership but gets 7% of the Appointments Council.

Asia has 25% (suspected high ASA numbers) but gets 38% of the Appointments Council.

NY gets a bill board - I hope all those 52 members went and took a selfie.

Australia which has 71% of the membership ( and the name of the organisation) gets 61% of the Appointments Council.

including NSW with over 25% of the membership gets 7% of the Appointments Council.

Personally I think it's a bit of an underhand way for force a strategy of globalisation and I think it's pretty shortsighted as if you take Australia out of it and Accounting for that matter there won't be any point to the organisation existing.

Also CPAA refusal to issue ASA numbers by region is simply childish. Did they actually say: "Not telling haha we got a secret and we are not telling" then chant "ner ner ni ner ner".
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Re: Membership Numbers by State in Australia

Post by JWheldon » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:13 am

A question. Are the overseas CPA members, actual members of CPA Australia or the independent CPA organisations, for example Singapore?

Should these independent organisations, actually be counted as part of the membership of CPA Australia???

Maybe the CPA Iceland branch, needs to included in the membership number, and that branch needs to request sponsorship funds from CPA Australia.

Is CPA Fiji included?

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Re: Membership Numbers by State in Australia

Post by JWheldon » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:36 am

CPA Australia on membership. This is different to Brett's information. Not really surprising.

A question for the members. Are the membership numbers of 163,750 as submitted by CPA Australia, made up of CPA Australia paying members, or does this figure include overseas CPA organisations, which are associated with CPA Australia, and therefore should not be included in the actual CPA Australia membership figures?

Lets reduce the 163,750 by the 20,339 south east Asia, and the 1,263 Southern Asia and the 18,861 Eastern Asia. Some of these organisations are associated with CPA Australia and therefore raise the question whether the membership figures provided by CPA Australia are actual CPA Australia income, or are these membership revenues incorrectly included?

CPA Australia says Australia has 116,909 members, NZ has 2024 , Fiji has 507, PNG has 106, Solomon islands, and other has 79 for Oceania Area.

Total membership is 163,750



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Re: Membership Numbers by State in Australia

Post by alizzia » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:04 pm

JWheldon wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:13 am
A question. Are the overseas CPA members, actual members of CPA Australia or the independent CPA organisations, for example Singapore?

Should these independent organisations, actually be counted as part of the membership of CPA Australia???

Maybe the CPA Iceland branch, needs to included in the membership number, and that branch needs to request sponsorship funds from CPA Australia.

Is CPA Fiji included?
In Singapore CPA Australia is affiliated with the Institute of Singapore Chartered Accountants (ISCA). CPA Australia has 8,492 members, while the ISCA has +28,000. They conduct many joint events, but are stand alone memberships, i,e.being a member of ISCA does not make you are member of CPA Australia, and vice versa.....

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Re: Membership Numbers by State in Australia

Post by JWheldon » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:31 pm

So the membership figures are just as colourful , and as the Amercian President would say Fake News.

The CPA Australian membership figures claim are similar to the claim by by CPA Australia, that the organisation is 100 years old. CPA Australia or the Australian Society of Accountants was incorporated on 13 October 1952. So it must be artistic license or like when a New Zealand musician or actor is claimed as an Australian. Who is going to pickup the small details

So the membership figures are not really correct, but the auditor, still states that the accounts are true and correct. Really???


The information provided by CPA Australia is certainly colourful. Truthful, well, its up to the membership to determine.

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Re: Membership Numbers by State in Australia

Post by The Nude CPA » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:25 pm

JWheldon wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:31 pm
So the membership figures are just as colourful , and as the Amercian President would say Fake News.

...

So the membership figures are not really correct, but the auditor, still states that the accounts are true and correct. Really???

The information provided by CPA Australia is certainly colourful. Truthful, well, its up to the membership to determine.
What? Surely alizzia's explanation is clear, so I'm not sure what you're on about.

What is it, in terms of Asian membership, you feel they have misrepresented?

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