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Who is on the Representative Council? Help

Post by Brett Stevenson » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:02 pm

I have done an excel spreadsheet of the Rep council from the annual reports going back to 2008.
The trouble is that it does not show which division or group they represent.
I have made stab for a couple of the years (from other sources I have) but clearly CPA Australia are not too keen for us to know.
They have already taken down from the website all divisional councillors and Rep councillors, along with disabling the Find A CPA function.
Quite amazing really - it reeks of a guilty conscience and a heavy handed desire to minimise any of these issues from being discussed with the 'leaders in CPA Australia. How the divisional Councils tolerate this with seemingly hardly a whimper defies me.
I shall be reporting it to ASIC if they do not fix it up this week.
HELP:
1. Can anyone identify who the Rep councillors are for 2017?
2. Can anyone identify the divisions and groups (especially) for the Rep Council for the past years?
3. Any insights and comments on this would be appreciated. So, for example Richard Blakeman volunteered himself to be the Mature member (straight from the horses mouth and we have that screen shot CPA, so don't try to change the story), and the only way he can be removed is by the board. Members have no say. How were other group members appointed? e.g past presidents has been John Cahill since the time of Adam, academic sector rep. we he/she elected or did they just volunteer, or were they tapped on the shoulder by the board.
Also have done for Board Committees on another sheet - interested to hear your thoughts.
Responses can go back to my email if you prefer - bstevenson100@gmail.com - total confidentiality.
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Re: Who is on the Representative Council? Help

Post by nakedadmin » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:59 pm

It speaks volumes that the names of the people on the representative council cannot even easily be found. I cannot find it and I think it might not be available at all.

CPA Australia did have a page on their website which listed the representative council but took it offline at about the same time they took the Find a CPA offline. The old page can still be accessed on the internet archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20160402052 ... ve-council
CPA Australia's entire argument that the members control the association is that members elect (indirectly) more than 50% of the representative council and the representative council appoints the board. In practice the representative council is ineffective in this role. See linked in discussion attached.

The other issue is that the groups they represent is not clear. The importance of this is that if the group they represent is a division then they are elected (indirectly) by members but if it is a branch council or other group then the directors can simply appoint a "friendly" to the representative council. This was touched on in the recently circulated CPA Australia important member information:

"The Board can, if it determines that there should be a person on the Representative Council from any group to reflect membership diversity, request that relevant group, body or committee to elect a person to the Representative Council."

Now if you think that means there is an election required. Read again. No election is required and the group does not need to be an actual group of people that someone in that area or demographic could join. What they are saying is that if they would want to they could use an election but there is no requirement to do so or even evidence they have ever done that.

Take the case of Richard Blakeman who was good enough to discuss this on linked in, conversation attached. He was appointed by the board to the representative council without an election. The group he represents is mature members and although he is involved in some related groups that do meet, there is no actual physical group that you can as a mature member join so that you can vote for or against Richard. He just represents a demographic.

The last cache of the CPA Australia representative council page is below.

As for what groups are divisions and which are other groups, I am unsure about:

* Greater China - CPA Australia has taken the page for this group offline. The page on the internet archive just calls it a "council". https://web.archive.org/web/20160326042 ... ater-china

* Singapore - probably is a division but the CPA Australia web page has been taken offline. The internet archive page does not use the word "division" it just says "council" could it be a branch council? https://web.archive.org/web/20160326042 ... /singapore

* Malaysia was referred to as a divisional council.

You would really think it was going to be so easy to find this info. But the little info that was there was taken offline by CPA Australia recently.


Members

Chair Graeme Wade FCPA President and Chairman of the Board (Chair) Until 30 September 2016

Councillors Representing
Tony Marks FCPA Australian Capital Territory
Ronald Yam FCPA Greater China
Teresa Chong FCPA Malaysia
Scott Stanton FCPA New South Wales
Jenny Kent FCPA New South Wales
Craig Dalzell FCPA Queensland
Ivana Bosio CPA South Australia
Chia-Tern Huey Min FCPA Singapore
Carolyn Harris FCPA Tasmania
Clare Lezaja FCPA Victoria
Richard Blakeman FCPA Victoria
Phillip Hancock FCPA Western Australia
Gary O’Donovan FCPA Academic sector
Albert Ho FCPA Corporate sector
Lindsay Doig FCPA Mature Members
Nicholas Danes CPA Not for profit sector
John Cahill FCPA Past Presidents
Ian Raspin FCPA Public Practice sector
Richard Mifsud FCPA Public sector
John Horder FCPA Small-to-medium enterprise sector
Anne Cutting FCPA Staffed branches (Europe/UAE, Northern Territory and New Zealand)
Valerie Biggs CPA Young Members


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Re: Who is on the Representative Council? Help

Post by nakedadmin » Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:11 am

Actually, China, Malaysia and Singapore must all be divisions so that the numbers would work out like:

12 Votes, Representative Council members that represent divisions (required to be greater than 50%):

Tony Marks FCPA Australian Capital Territory
Ronald Yam FCPA Greater China
Teresa Chong FCPA Malaysia
Scott Stanton FCPA New South Wales
Jenny Kent FCPA New South Wales
Craig Dalzell FCPA Queensland
Ivana Bosio CPA South Australia
Chia-Tern Huey Min FCPA Singapore
Carolyn Harris FCPA Tasmania
Clare Lezaja FCPA Victoria
Richard Blakeman FCPA Victoria
Phillip Hancock FCPA Western Australia

11 Votes, Representative Council members that represent other groups. Does the Chairman of the Board actually vote? seems to:

Chair Graeme Wade FCPA President and Chairman of the Board (Chair) Until 30 September 2016
Gary O’Donovan FCPA Academic sector
Albert Ho FCPA Corporate sector
Lindsay Doig FCPA Mature Members
Nicholas Danes CPA Not for profit sector
John Cahill FCPA Past Presidents
Ian Raspin FCPA Public Practice sector
Richard Mifsud FCPA Public sector
John Horder FCPA Small-to-medium enterprise sector
Anne Cutting FCPA Staffed branches (Europe/UAE, Northern Territory and New Zealand)
Valerie Biggs CPA Young Members

This information is already out of date and as I mentioned I cannot find any publication of current information from CPA Australia.

Brett could you please request this info. Either the info or the refusal to provide it would be interesting.

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Re: Who is on the Representative Council? Help

Post by Brett Stevenson » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:16 pm

Can I encourage all members to read the Linked In Discussion downloaded by nakedadmin to get a good understanding of not only myths surrounding the Representative Council and the weaknesses evident in the corporate governance processes at CPA, but also it has the comments by Richard Blakeman (which I only had a screen shot of part) about his volunteering and appointment as the Mature Sector Rep. Councillor.
The discussion and insights of many of the commentators puts paid to so much of the CPA Australia line which Richard Blakeman pretty clearly espouses.
I would say the reason they have taken this discussion down from the Linked In Discussion Group, and also banned certain members, is indicative of the major corporate governance problems at CPA Australia. It is hitting a very raw and obvious failing, and they know it. Why else would they take down the identity of Rep Councillors and Divisional Councillors from the website, and heavily censor the LinkedIN discussion group.
It is a very revealing discussion.
CPA Australia love discussion groups so long as they 'toe the line' and do not discuss difficult or major problem areas.
I would suggest the corporate governance weaknesses in the Representative Council selection process (and hence the Board selection) are an obvious problem, and I regard that flawed process as one of the main reasons some of the current leadership at CPA Australia have been able to serve much longer than normal board terms (Wade, Petty and Ryan), and it raises an enormous governance red flag in terms of the direction of CPA Australia under Alex Malley over the last decade.

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Re: Who is on the Representative Council? Help

Post by Chris Catto » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:50 pm

The Representative Council's role in the governance process is an elaborate smoke screen.
1) Article 63 - The Group is Chaired by the President! So we have a committee that is overseeing the performance of the Board but is Chaired by the Board President. No conflict of interest, come on you've got to be more daft than blind and deaf Freddy.
2) Article 62a (iii) 62b - The Board decides on the make up of almost half of Representative Council. So again the Board decided on the make up of the committee that is suppose to hold the Board accountable :lol:

The plain truth is the Representative Council is no more than ceremonial role. The Board has undue influence on the positions, the Board President Chairs the group. A clear conflict of interest, I mean how can a Board member have an influential role in the very body he/she is suppose to be holding him/her accountable.(Particularly when his/her $X00,000 directors fee is in question.)

The very fact that CPA management is doing its very best to shut down any public discussion on the governance process should be of great concern to all members. If you have nothing to hide, then why curtail discussion?

It's bigger than a Joke all member should have an interest in replacing the Representative Council

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Post by nakedadmin » Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:06 pm

Actually it's even worse. The Representative Council has to follow the procedure set by the board in the appointment of Directors, which includes showing them the board selected applications 1 week before they vote and only showing the names of the other applications at the meeting where they vote. So unless the Representative Council want to appoint a candidate without reviewing their application and possibly has not been interviewed then it's the Directors choice.

Anyway no matter who gets appointed the Representative Council has no role in making that person accountable. They cannot remove a Director. Any information the Representative Council gets is given to them by the Directors. So they don't have the information needed to make Directors accountable or the power to do anything if by some miracle they would want to.
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Re: Who is on the Representative Council? Help

Post by sjc431 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 1:36 pm

This situation is really dismaying, what happened to even the perception of conflict of interest being a problem? (let alone what appears to be a totally conscious action to 'lock up' control of CPAs member funds for a select few (heavily) associated individuals to really improve their personal positions for no real benefit to members)

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