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Constitution of CPA - Who can and can't vote

Discussions about the constitution and how CPA Australia is run
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Constitution of CPA - Who can and can't vote

Post by Time4Change » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:36 pm

Based on the Constitution, Associate and Honorary members can't vote.
Therefore, only full CPA, FCPA and life members can vote.
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Re: Constitution of CPA - Who can and can't vote

Post by Ted Sherwood » Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:43 pm

Also needed, from page 4 of the same document:

Meeting Member means, in relation to a meeting of Members, the Member present at
the place of the meeting, in person or by proxy or by attorney.

Member means a natural person whose name is entered in the Register as a member
of the Company. For the avoidance of doubt, Honorary Members are Members.

So those on the Retired list seem to be eligible.

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Re: Constitution of CPA - Who can and can't vote

Post by Dave » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:59 pm

Hi All,

Great work by Brett and all involved getting CPA's governance issues to this stage.

The reluctance by CPA Australia to release the Member numbers as required by law may be due to;

1. To delay the process as much as possible;

2. The Associate members (i.e. Students) is probably around 50,000 to 60,000 of the total membership. This is not unrealistic given it was around 35% of the membership leading upto 2008 which was the last year the breakdown was released and it was 45,000 that year out of a total of 122,000.

3. If the Associates are at the higher end of the scale of around 60,000 or more then that exposes the issue that the conversion rate from ASA to CPA has been poor since 2008. In the 2016 Annual Report, ASA have sat for 50,000 exams and then there are some ASA's who are not doing the exams. Also there were some media reports that suggested in the last 4 years there were 45,000 growth which should mainly be ASAs. This provides some support for an educated estimate of around 60,000 or more ASAs.

4. If this is correct then this means the CPA/FCPA number has not significantly grown from 77,000 in 2008 and is probably around the 90,000 mark.

5. The majority of the FCPA/CPAs who can vote are living in Australia. The majority in Asia are ASAs.

Once the actual members' register is released it is likely that these will be further nails in the coffin in this never ending train wreck completely blowing out of the water the justification on marketing, branding and excessive remuneration. Otherwise, why not release the member's register as required by law. The law did not ask for the students' register?

Looking forward to the release of the members' register excluding the students.

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